The last few days following the election saw a couple accusations of voter fraud in FL and AZ. While the evidence seems stronger in FL, that has not stopped speculation about the senate race in AZ.
Where the race in AZ to fill the vacancy left by Jeff Flake currently stands, is Sinema with a lead around 32,000 votes.
There have been a few questionable things that occurred on election day, such as the foreclosure of a polling center in Chandler, AZ (part of a conservative area of the SE Phoenix area), and standing up emergency polling locations where no such emergency occurred. The only thing that does look fishy was Maricopa County continued verifying signatures on mail in/early ballots past election day, when other counties stopped. This is an odd practice that typically doesn’t matter because most of the time statewide races are not this close. These also represent the majority of ballots. AZ allows vote by mail and the state even pays postage, making it easy to vote. Upon a lawsuit filed by Republicans, all counties will continue to verify signatures until November 14. Theoretically this helps McSally, as she has far greater support thus far in the rural parts of the state. Maricopa County encompases Phoenix, and the surrounding area, with about half of the state’s population.
Another thing to mention is there are other statewide races that have seen some growth in the lead or closing the gap or even taking the lead of a Republican candidate. Nobody in the national media has paid any attention to these.
As far as the horse race goes, in the first link there is discussion of where the latest batch came from, and that is mostly from Pima county. That county is Tucson and the surrounding area and tends to vote blue in federal and local elections. The local business community often accuses the city government of hostility to business on a variety of issues— it is not Phoenix by a long shot.
McSally represented a district that included Tucson, and she won that district by under 200 votes in the last election, she is an unpopular candidate in that part of the state, which means the votes that came last couple days were votes she was not going to get anyway. Sinema represents a district that encompasses part of Maricopa county, mainly S. Phoenix, Tempe and part of Mesa. It stands to reason she was going to get votes from these areas.
The remainder are almost all from Maricopa county. Phoenix itself may be blue but many surrounding cities are not. Mesa, Gilbert, Scottsdale, Surprise, and Glendale in particular vote red. Many believe these cities, coupled with the northern part of the state are why AZ has not turned into CO, but that’s a discussion for another day.
Bottom line, this race is still ridiculously close, and if it is going to change leads again, its going to have to happen soon. If there is fraud, there needs to be more than accusations from partisan hacks. We just spent the last month defending Brett Kavanaugh over accusations without evidence, we need to approach this the same way. Where is the evidence?
Nice write up Mex, but you didn’t fear monger enough, now hit that Ish!!! whatever the fuck that means ( Hey Tres, would it kill you to link to some Tom Waits every once in a while)
Ehhh. Fine. Kill them. Kill them all. *
*I’m Kidding NSA.
Without yet having an opinion on this year’s shenanigans, I do often wonder how many “oddities” occur nationwide and simply don’t make the news because everyone knows who was going to win anyway.
Yep. By trying to make it convenient for all to vote, they’ve most likely sacrificed the ability to accurately count. If you can’t count, then sorry, but you people have to show up in person. With an ID.
I wouldnt be surprised to see such legislation. The legislature and governor didnt flip.
I promise, when I get there, to vote against the Blues til I die, this whole thing is out of hand
Sinema
Total. Milf.
OOOOK, Bleach Blonde 40ish nutjob, go for it…….
She’s a slightly less hot version of Kathleen Robertson.
And if you’re nice she’ll tell you how much she hates you.
Joke’s on you. I want her to disparage me.
Sounds like a hipster brand colon cleanser.
“Ask your doctor.”
Only if you leave her personality out of the equation.
This guy is awesome.
My Man! Welcome to america!
TY Rebel
Damn. Nicely done.
Today in “oh no she di’int!“.
Damn, politicians and other public figures need some kind of leaflet with some bullet points reminding them of “things not to say in public under any circumstances”. I think a good start would be:
– Don’t make positive references to public hangings
– Don’t compare a black person to any type of primate (even if she really does look like an extra on Planet of the Apes)
Jarrett looks more like a lizard person to me.
The elder, of course. Laura Jarrett is fucking hot.
*DuckDuckGo image search for Laura Jarrett*
OH yea, she’s deep in the heart of would country.
Seconded.
Hate Fuckers…….
What a dumb unforced error. It’s not racist but it is stupid.
Been gone all day after finding out my idiot sister is getting re-married. I passed out for 12 hours after giving myself a massive concussion facepalming.
Wedding is in December. Just announced today. I’m 80% sure she’s pregnant. Which is the last thing this world needs.
I didn’t do it.
My sister has the absolute worst taste in men. You’re not nearly enough of an asshole to date her.
My sister’s baby daddy is the best guy out of the string that she has dated since being with him because he is the only one without a drug problem and that has not been to jail.
+1 or more bad boys
Dated SINCE being with him. Lucky guy, eh.
*phew*
i wouldn’t be dancing so early, HM. I’ve been getting some…reports from anonymous sources about your progenies all over.
People familiar with HM’s thinking…
My daughter announced that she is planning on a divorce from her loser husband of 30 years and her new boy friend approves. The best part of the news is that she is too old to get pregnant. I could never understand the glue that held the marriage together in the first place. Remembering her boy friends from her teen age years gives me pause about the new guy as well.
“Doing the same thing again…(and again)(and again)”.
Enhance…Enhance…Enhance….My computer just found 30,000 missing votes! Who they are for depends who pays the best.
They’re for HRC from 2016. Here’s how she could still will the election.
I like your thinking. Now I just need to set up a nonprofit for the Clinton foundation to funnel the payment through, perhaps the ‘Free Kittens for Dying Kids Foundation’.
Wow, the Clinton foundation has raised over $2 billion and currently has over $200 million in assests.
And all they’ve ‘accomplished’ is to fuck over earthquake victims, but gee they’re just the greatest, and it’s not THEIR fault the money was wasted.
The McSally campaign manager would like a moment with you.
Would not.
BTW, South Park already did it.
Florida AG Pam Bondi, is the hottest public official. So there.
If that’s your thing, I won’t stand in your way.
Are you guys desperate for Sex? of just a good Hate fuck, Q! We need some Hotties Stat!
the whole Glibertariat is freaking out!
Public official, homes. Public official.
Let me try to put it Sugarfree-esque pros. “The sunken face of a weathered old woman sat atop the bone structure that looked sullen and defeated. The hair bristled like a wig filled with too much dried cum, and broke at odd places. The distinguished look of the mouth breathing nerd from high school, transplanted to an aged beauty queen. She was Baked Penguins idea of beauty and no one could deny him that.”
You nailed it.
I feel SF would have had fancier words for ‘wig’ and ‘cum’ though.
Perfect….
Oh great…
FloridaBrooklyn woman and man (with a kid) are staging a little drunken drama outside on the street. “Joey, bring my son back heah now!”It’s not like anyone isctrying to sleep.
Well, not me.
The kid was like “Every day I come home from school and you’re drunk!” Hoo boy. They just walked together back home.
That kid sounds like an asshole, I’d be drunk every day too. Actually I already am. But I ain’t raising no kids.
I couldn’t hear my neighbor unless he shot off fireworks, no can hear the ruckus here. The screams of the innocent die in the night like WAPO says.
My neighbors have highly entertaining shouting matches from time to time…
– When I was moving my furniture into this house, I heard the man bellowing at the top of his lungs, “get the fuck out, you fucking faggot!” And a younger guy (one of his sons) stomped out of the house angrily.
– Him and his wife pulled up in their truck one time, and I could hear them arguing. He throws something that looks like a fast food bag out the window and onto his front lawn. She gets out of the truck and walks into the house. He walks after her, but he’s morbidly obese, so it takes him about a minute to get from the car to the house. The whole way there, he yells, “You got it all wrong, you whore! You got it all wrong, you fucking whore!”
– On Halloween, they were trying to put up a large inflatable Minion and having quite a struggle with it. He was shouting (as kids were walking by in costume) “No, it’s gotta be plugged in! I TOLD YOU! Did I not tell you that the damn thing has to be plugged in?!”
I usually keep to myself but last nights Young ones party down the street set me off, they blocked the entire street with vehicles, then one bumped my car while Parking,
“shut up Old man” They said, Fuck off I replied, and called the Police, and said a bunch of White kids are fucking up my street, please help, for once, the Upland PD was helpful
As someone not familiar with the area, what’s the significance of them being white?
That way the coppers know to send the regular police, not the swat team.
They still have a good chance of getting all shooty, but they’ll use their glocks instead of the ARs and flash-bangs.
Yusef…I used to live in Upland about 20 years ago now
I grew up in Rancho, lived in apartments in Upland and owned a condo in Chino. My old stomping grounds.
My kids wakes me up around 4 to 5 every morning. … maybe i could get posting powers and post an early morning links thread.
And then be the only one responding to it. :p
I have an 8 am dentist appointment. What a great way to start the day.
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I have three – so they conspire to prevent sleep.
The oldest fights going to sleep, so he keeps me busy until around 11:00 many nights. The youngest has been waking up around 1:00 to crawl in bed with me – and keeps me up until around 3:00 kicking and squirming. Then it is up at 6:00 to get the day going. The middle child is being amazingly easy about that stuff right now… well, she likes “bedtime chats” that can go on for a long while if something is bothering her. The net result is that I’m pretty much completely occupied with kids and bedtime stuff from 8pm until 3am. Well, with a break around midnight to do the dishes and maybe a load of laundry. But I’m counting that as a win, because last year it was the middle child up at 2am and the little one was up at 5:00, ready for breakfast.
So, long story short, I can respond to your way-too-early posts with incoherent, sleep-deprived jibberish about half the time.
That kind of torture should be against the Geneva convention. I don’t understand how people can manage sometimes.
The nice thing is that the teenage years are just around the corner. I hear that those are even more challenging. Oh, joy.
Good article Mex. Based on the rantings of Razorfist, and the fact that the only people from Arizona I know are oin this board it seems I had the wrong impression of the state. It makes the election of such great politicians as McCain and flake more understandable.
As long as we are discussing Arizona….. can someone explain what is up with that?
What I mean is… there’s nothing there. Why all the people? Other cities are built around transportation hubs – Atlanta, New York, Los Angeles, Miami, Chicago…. Some are hubs for farming area or mining access to transportation – Minneapolis, St. Louis, etc.
Why all the people right out in the middle of absolutely nothing? A quick look on Wikipedia says that the number one employer is the state government. Transportation, Utilities and Trade overall is the top employer, followed closely by government and education and health services. Manufacturing employs a mere 150k people, a little more than half that of the “leisure” industry. The state’s second largest private employer is Wal-Mart (behind Banner Health, a hospital chain operated as a non-profit by the Lutherans)
So, why there? Deserts are nice and all, and I enjoyed visiting the Grand Canyon and the area around there… but the 14th most populous state, based on that? Their industry seems to be based on the fact that people live there – hospitals and Wal-Mart. And government. So why live there? Is it really all around retirement money?
This is a good question and something I’ve often wondered myself. Why isn’t it more like Montana or Wyoming in terms of population?
Immigration from the south as well as immigration from CA combined with snow birds from the north.
There is a lot of farming outside of PHX but yes, I think the main industry is serving retirees. During the housing crash a bunch of Canadian money flooded into the Phoenix area buying up vacation homes and also property to flip.
Because cold and snow suck?
It is Florida without the humidity, and Florida Man.
Thanks for the update MS, it is good to get a local perspective. I heard day after election pundits surmising remaining ballots were definitely going to go McSally’s way. Teach me to believe establishment idiots. I may be able to be persuaded to get on board with those who say these mail in ballots need to go and we should have vote in person unless you are overseas. It seems to be the area causing the most doubt as to elections being above board and also have the greatest vulnerability to being able to be used in voter fraud. Especially in places like Broward county where they could/would not disclose how many ballots they had for days after the election. I find that really hard to believe.
I don’t trust any Dem lawyer though and wonder why they Repubs had to sue concerning verifying ballots. When they “cure” a ballot is it monitored, or are we taking the word of some Democrat poll worker?
I am in Broward county as we speak. There’s lots to be skeptical about. The lack of explanation from the Supervisor of Elections is particularly troubling, because if there were actually innocent explanations you would think she could just rattle them off from the top of her head. Instead she’s been ducking the media and avoiding explaining things.
The biggest questions I have are around the early vote. Maybe the media misinformed me. But I don’t know, because the government didn’t get out in front of it and let us know. But I was told by the press that they were counting the early voting – that was a main reason for being late. That makes no sense at all, since the votes are scanned at the time you vote. So why in the world wouldn’t they have those all tabulated well before election day?
There may be good explanations around that. But waiting for several days to offer that explanation means nobody is going to believe it. Because it should be simple. And not being able to just rattle it off for the press immediately leads people to suspect you had to come up with an explanation, instead of there being an obvious, easy and truthful answer.
The problem is that everything happened behind closed doors in the first couple of days. So if you want “proof” of anything happening, you are going to have to rely on either someone who is a part of a criminal conspiracy coming forward and confessing, or you are going to have to go through a million votes and check each and every voter to see if they actually voted (and potentially how they voted). Obviously, this isn’t going to happen.
The only “evidence” we have is that they are behaving suspiciously and votes are showing up mysteriously. Well, we also had the “repairing” damaged ballots thing – happening away from poll watchers. That’s pretty suspicious. But that can easily be explained by people just trying to get things done and not realizing that it is going to look suspicious.
I lived in Broward county for a short while back in the late 80’s and I liked the place. Had a lot of fun there. Combine what you say, and the video of cars pulling up and unloading boxes of ballots to guys putting them in rental trucks and ya, it all looks fishy as fuck. How they can’t keep a running tally of ballots arriving before and during the election and have a valid number to report immediately after is impossible in my opinion. Makes me think they did not know how many fraudulent ballots they had to turn in so couldn’t give a number yet.
That’s exactly the perception they have created.
And their statements only add fuel to the fire. It is a weird use of language that may be entirely innocent, but poll workers have been talking this way for a long time. Back in 2000 I distinctly remember the Palm Beach County elections supervisor saying they were going to keep counting until they ensured a win for Al Gore. It was pretty much a confession, to my untrained ears. But nobody even seized on it at all at the time.
This time around, they talked the same way. They are “looking for votes” for the democrat candidates. They keep “finding votes”. How the heck do you “find” votes? I get that some of it may just be a language problem – if you are going to talk about the horse race aspect, you have to use imprecise language. But they “found” 80k votes after the polls closed…. and supposedly that was early voting, which makes no sense at all. Those should have been instantly tabulated as they were cast, and reported in at the end of the day.
Strangely, the “found” votes were not enough to wipe out the lead in either big race, based on the 60/40 percentage of the rest of the vote. But only after the rest of the results from around the state were all in. And early voting was reported as being heavily republican. Yet these seemed to be more like 80/20 for team D, based on back of the envelope numbers. Also pretty odd. Almost like someone dropped an extra 20k votes for team D into a pile of 60k votes.
The GOP really has to fuckup to lose Mississippi in 2 weeks with a female candidate. Without metoo, all Leftists have is racism or voter fraud. Of course, Leftists could overreach by losing their collective shit over a remark that’s benign to everyone but racebaiters… like what’s currently happening.
The fact that you can even consider such an idea outs you as a racist.