Since there are a few Glibs here trying to learn another language I thought I’d share my experience. In my case I’m studying Japanese but will structure my experience here into what has worked well for me generally. If there is interest, in a follow-up post I’ll discuss what worked and didn’t work for me specifically learning Japanese.
Get Motivated
First and foremost, you are going to need something to keep you motivated. If you have no compelling interest in the language or a desire to use it, you are going to find it very difficult to study and retain much as an adult. When you are younger, for example in high school and college, your ability to learn is much better than when you are older.
My interest in Japanese was twofold, first I’d always been curious about the country and the culture and second, I’d been told it was a very difficult language for an English speaker to learn. I can confirm the second part, but I turned it into a source of motivation. I wasn’t going to let its difficult nature beat me. However, honestly, looking back I’m not sure I’d do it again. I’ve no intention of moving to Japan and no professional need for it. It was simply something I chose do as an intellectual stretch. I wanted to learn something that was in no way related to my career which is heavy on math, finance. However, I have made some wonderful friends as a result of my studies which was truly unexpected.
Find a Schedule
I have the misfortune to spend over an hour a half every weekday commuting by train to Manhattan. Rather than spend this time simply surfing on the phone, with the exception of glibertarians.com of course, I put this uninterrupted time into studying. This equates to about seven hours or so each week of “found” study time.
Find a Class or a Partner or Even Better Both
There is plenty to be gained by self-study, but I’m astounded by the amount of people on the internet who want to learn a language only through self-study. It’s a language – the whole point is communication. For somebody learning Japanese he or she may only want to watch anime or read manga and feels self-study is perfectly appropriate. I think you’re setting yourself up for a huge case of disappointment. An instructor, preferably with native fluency, is an invaluable resource to help you understand a language. While you can’t beat a physical class to fully understand nuance, thanks to the internet there are many, many live language classes that are available online through things like Skype. Personally, I have a formal class for two hours once a week after work.
I also do a language exchange with three partners in Japan. One of my partners is email only while the other two are Skype calls of one hour each week. We do roughly half the call in Japanese and the other half in English. They help me with my Japanese and I help them learn English. I won’t lie and say that as a relatively introverted person that this was particularly easy to do. The first six months or so getting to know everyone was really a struggle, however they have become true friends. They are also an invaluable resource. I can email them to ask them questions and unlike my teacher at my formal class they are friends. I can ask them about colloquial usage and impolite words and phrases that my instructor won’t or doesn’t want to discuss.
YouTube, (Niconico), Movies and TV
I can’t imagine what it was like trying to learn a language and find content before all the various video sites. I’m very much of an auditory learner so watching YouTube is a terrific way for me to learn. I’m fortunate that Japan is a karaoke culture so lots of music has the lyrics available. The music itself also helps me remember vocabulary. However, like English music, Japanese lyrics aren’t necessarily grammatical. I also watch plenty of news and talk shows in Japanese simply to try to follow the conversations.
Naturally I watch movies, TV and anime as well. Here you must be careful. Specific to Japanese there are various levels of politeness and the spoken language has gender differences. So, unless you want to sound like a female samurai you need to understand the context of what you are watching and not simply repeat things you hear in videos.
Be Wary of Shortcuts
I can’t count the number of web site devoted to learning Japanese in short time periods or various “hacks” for learning Japanese. If learning another language was really that easy don’t you think we’d all be learning another two or three? I suppose if you are a fluent Spanish speaker learning Portuguese you have a shot a fluency in six months. For the rest of us I’d suggest that it’s going to be a matter of putting in the time. And, from my experience, if you’re over 40 be prepared for lots of it. Younger students in my Japanese class kick my ass. Yes, I’ve picked up many learning shortcuts over the years, but you can’t beat the younger brain for learning new things.
” I suppose if you are a fluent Spanish speaker learning Portuguese you have a shot a fluency in six months”
Funny story. I’m fairly conversational in Spanish, but due to circumstance i don’t get to practice it much any more. Recently we had a family move in next door, who were South American. I would hear them talk and try to listen to make sure i could still get by with my Spanish. I was terrified that i couldn’t understand half of what they were saying. Finally when i got a chance to talk to them they told me they were from Brazil.
I recently found out I wasn’t alone thinking that Portuguese sounds more like Russian than Spanish to me!
https://youtu.be/Pik2R46xobA
I won’t bore you with all the supporting evidence from research.
I wouldn’t think much of the above is unsupported. It’s mostly vanilla stuff.
Honestly, the amount of click bait stuff for learning languages is crazy.
My personal favorite was “Benny” failing spectacularly and trying to spin into success.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Lewis
Oh my God! That fuckhead? My favorite was the ads saying that I supposedly “hated” Paul Pimsleur.
Yes, he tried to learn Japanese.
He went from “fluency”, however you want to define that, down to going to Japan and have a rudimentary conversation. But he got sick so it doesn’t count.
“He was named National Geographic Traveler of the Year in 2013”
I don’t know. With credentials like that, he’s gotta be onto something.
Benny Lava? I love him!
/bookmarked for further review later
You should add Chaturbate to the mix. (See your previous comment about motivation.)
Though, I suspect that such sites are more useful to the gentleman learning Tagalog.
more useful to the gentleman learning Tagalog
I don’t follow.
I suspect camming is the 2nd largest export of the Philippines.
Less controversially, lots of on line English lessons too.
I would but I don’t want to be a third wheel.
Filipino porn.
LBFM’s already speak enough English for me. Why would I want to learn what they are really saying about me?
*This is the key to my great relations with my in-laws. Neither of us understand each other and my wife is able to manage the translations in a tactful manner that keeps everyone happy.
OT: George RR Martin may be able to write fantasy sufficiently well, but he absolutely sucks big, fat, hairy, donkey balls when it comes to science fiction.
Holy Bejeebus, I’m now watching Nightflyers just to see how bad it can get.
I wouldn’t judge anything by a SyFy adaptation.
If it’s anything remotely close to the original source material, then it is a damning account of Martin’s skills.
Obligatory rant (which we’ve covered before) over Syfy violating and destroying “The Cold Equations.”
I never read the source material, but I really liked how they did ‘The Expanse’; right up until the assholes cancelled it.
Amazon has or is considering picking it up.
They did.
I won’t watch unless it gets released on DVD/BluRay though.
Fixing SyFy network is on my list of things to do if I come into uncountable money.
Ive mentioned it before but the first 3 steps are something like:
1. Change the damn name back.
2. Buy the rights to everything Larry Niven has ever written. Then actually make things from it.
3. Give Joss Whedon a 2-season, no network interference contract.
4. Godzilla
5. Monstervision
^This
Get Joe Bob back on TV in some capacity, stat
6. Zardoz marathons every holiday weekend.
From paying attention to roots and such, I’ve recognized cognates since a child. Mein Deustch ist nicht sehr gut, y mi Espanol es malo, y mon Francais sucques.
Gender, tense, and declination don’t come easy: in asking after your health, I’m apt to both threaten to kill you AND call you a girl.
I really didn’t want to learn Latin in high school, but it’s been remarkably helpful in Japanese. Not directly, but for how it makes you focus on grammar.
The gendering of nouns is something that I could never really wrap my brain around. I’m sure it makes sense to those who are fluent in the language, but to me it just makes me wonder how the genders are assigned to nouns. I invent something, and give it a new name, what gender is it?
Dude, that completely depends on how the object identifies.
I was pigheaded about learning German (I know, the Dane Cook of second languages), and refused to memorize articles because it seemed arbitrary and stupid.
Schweinkopf!
That’s what I’m struggling with now. Planning a trip to Germany in the next year or so, and would like to at least be able to navigate the basics in their language. Maybe we can get the gender studies people to start working on getting rid of gender in nouns in foreign languages, at least that would bring some sense to the world.
You can get pretty far with:
1. memorizing a few patterns (-e nouns are feminine, -el are masculine, etc.)
2. mumbling
Mumbling has been my go-to in Germany. Got me surprisingly far in Munich.
I have found that they take delight in their language being “difficult” but at the same time they are totally forgiving of us rubes when we mess it up – can’t say that for everyone. It helps that they can often mess it up a lot too.
+1 Munich taxi driver laughing at my wife’s long ago HS German, but helping her with the words at the same time.
Those two are so close that Portuguese is practically a dialect of Spanish *ducks*.
I served my LDS mission in Guatemala, and learned Spanish. My brother served his in Brazil, and learned (of course) Portuguese. While he was there, his mission president came to Salt Lake, and dropped by my house to deliver some things my brother had sent to us. We had a wonderful conversation with him. It was about 30 minutes in before we both realized that I was speaking Spanish (I was still fluent at the time) and he was speaking Portuguese!
I still remember a lot of Spanish from school, and earlier this year I got on DuoLingo to try Portuguese. I lost interest after about a month, but I found those two languages to be very similar. Sometimes words were identical, the concept of male/female nouns is the same, tenses are the same (although with different endings).
HM can correct me, but i think English is fairly unique for Indo-European Langauges in not having gendered nouns.
I worked with a Portuguese girl in Switzerland. I used my HS spanish to read her travel guides. It is spanish with funny spellings.
No it’s definitely Portuguese. Portuguese == Spanish with rocks in your mouth.
I took two years of German when I was in college, and I knew I was losing my fluency. A friend told me that she had another friend who was German that would be willing to chat with me, so we started talking. Strictly in English.
She ended up moving in with me and we got married about 6 months later. About a year after that we moved to Germany for six years.
She still hasn’t taught me a bit of German – any time I try she gets frustrated and switches to English. Doesn’t help that her entire family is Schwaebisch, and that dialect is about as far from high German as you get….
I’m guessing you found somebody else there to speak with!
Most of my neighbors spoke English, so the communication wasn’t that bad. I can still understand a whole lot more than I feel comfortable speaking, so when we went to our neighbors for dinner, the conversation was mostly German (which I was able to follow), and my contributions were in English.
When we went to visit my wife’s family, I just kinda sat there – they were all speaking Schwaebisch, and I couldn’t understand a word of what was being said. Her grandfather loved telling me stories about his time in the German army and Russian POW camps during the war. I didn’t know what he was saying until my wife gave me a recap on the way home – apparently she is the only one of the family that really understood what he was saying (he had 3 strokes by that time, so he slurred a lot, and he came from the Sudetenland, so his dialect was very different as well). She thought he liked telling me stories because I didn’t interrupt him, mainly as I had no way to communicate with him.
I took German in college (and Papago) since I figured the army would send me there. When they did, I went to deepest, darkest Bavaria so my German is very Bayerish influenced. It has degraded since then but still the Bayerish comes out when I speak. That drives my German daughter in law and her parents bonkers when I visit. I am trying to speak German (good) but it is that Catholic, pig farmer German (bad).
My wife chides me every time I speak German. Apparently my German professors in college were from the Frankfurt area, so I picked up their pronunciation of words – I learned “Ich” to be pronounced as “Ish” instead of the throat clearing of other areas. My wife always complains about me sounding like a Hessian, and that it is proper to use a simple “i” (sounds like the letter e). I point out that my ancestors came from Hesse, so I’m just being authentic. Oh, and my wife would probably share that appraisal of your accent – she has a deep innate dislike of anything Bavarian…
My wife is a fairly typical European in the fact that she can fluently speak several languages, and knows enough in all the major European languages to get by. I wasn’t aware of this until we were in Germany driving on the autobahn, where she made a habit of cussing out the other drivers in whatever language was indicated by their license plates. She had a theory that the French and Dutch were still getting revenge on the Germans for WWII by driving so slow in the left lane in the no restrictions parts of the road…
Did Ky invade Ohio at some point I am unaware of?
One of the lucky few the Russians didn’t work to death and let go home after ten years?
That is amazingly accurate. One of her opa’s stories that he liked to tell was that as a young boy he was always ashamed for being such a small guy – he was only about 5’4″ with a very slight build. He said that he finally got over this when all the big strapping men died off in the POW camp due to malnutrition, but he survived.
After the war ended the Russians basically opened up the gates and told them to go home. His POW camp was just outside of Tashkent, Uzbekistan. It took him nearly 3 years to walk the 3k miles back to Germany, through a country that wasn’t too happy with his kind. He said he was lucky that he was able to pick up a good bit of Russian while in the camp and that it was enough to avoid the worst of the retribution.
I really wish I was able to understand him more – it would have been fascinating to hear his stories. While he is still alive, he has pretty late stage alzheimer’s, so it’s pretty much too late at this point…
Uffda. I thought Japanese was much easier than my high school Spanish class. I remember almost nothing of that. I struggled mightily with feminine/masculine (wonder if woke Spaniards have trans now) nouns.
Japanese has very few irregular verbs and is very mechanical. The hardest part for me is a) vocabulary and b) getting used to the subject, predicate, verb structure. The phonemes are all pretty easy to handle.
Korean kills me because there are some phonemes I can’t hear the difference between or pronounce.
But on the other hand, my first stab at learning Japanese was when I was 20 and living in Okinawa. I added when I worked in Tokyo for half a year in my late 20’s. Immersion is the key to my having any chance of learning.
I tend to teach more English to my Korean and Japanese in-laws. I also tend to englishize what phrases I do know.
For example, “ashita mata” means see you tomorrow. I always say “ashita la vista baby”. I laugh at my witticism and the Japanese in-laws just look at me strangely.
Yes, Japanese is really regular in its verbs. But it also has adjectives that are essentially verbs too. Add in that you inflect all those verbs and have various levels of politeness for those inflection levels and, to me, it gets ridiculously complicated.
Japanese is relatively simple in pronunciation. Hardest thing is hearing the “long vowels” and the pause of “doubled consonants” for me.
There is speculation that Korean and Japan share some hidden as yet undiscovered common language. I’ll leave that to HM. There are some similarities in grammar and borrowed words from China. As a result, in my current class, there is a Korean woman learning Japanese who is kicking my ass…
Having started Mandarin after doing Japanese as phrases and words, I found both to be helpful for learning the other. Learning to recognize and speak different tones and the syllables for Mandarin helped me with Japanese. Likewise, same/similar ideograms with the same or different pronunciation helps me to pick them up. Like jiǔ (mandarin) and shu (Japanese) 酒.
Apologies if I’m rambling. Drinking like a fish at the moment.
Sure – onyomi reading of Japanese are how the Chinese of whatever era sounded to Japanese people when the word entered the language.
I’m at work – hoist one for me!
My Korean wife picked up Japanese pretty easily. (She got her undergrad degree in Japan).
When I met her at Memphis State she was trying to polish up her English enough to go to grad school here. I talked her into helping me with my Japanese class and a year later we were getting married.
Her Japanese is pretty spot on, her English still needs work. She has problems with some of our pronunciations (Darryl’s barrel of warm worms is impossible for her). She also has some quirks in her phrasing (“Have you fun” is one that my kids tease her about all the time).
But since the kids and I all stink at other languages we don’t have much room to mock her.
“at Memphis State she was trying to polish up her English”
Should have tried doing that in Warsaw, or at least Chicago.
I went to the Defense Language Institute for Vietnamese. I would practice at break time in the hallway with one of the cute instructors. We’ve been married almost 45 years now. In the early days of our marriage we would often get stuck on an English or Vietnamese word and have to switch to French.
Now it’s all English but between accents and the fact that I can’t hear very well we are often speaking and hearing two different conversations. Somehow it doesn’t seem to make too much difference.
In the early days of our marriage we would often get stuck on an English or Vietnamese word and have to switch to French.
Video?
Here you go.
Mel Brooks explains Sid Caesar’s fake German General and other nonsense languages.
(starts around 1:45…I didnt cue it up)
I loved both of my grandfathers, but if I could have a third it’d be Mel Brooks. Man, I love that guy. I think he’s going to be one of the only celebrities whose passing I’ll actually mourn.
Has anyone tried iTalki? Sounds like a good concept, and if you schedule your lessons it will keep you on track.
They paid for lots of sponsored advertising on YouTube on all the various learning a language bloggers.
No idea as to how good or bad the service itself is.
Thank you Sensei!
My two observations:
1) Don’t be afraid to find another teacher of the first one isn’t working for you. I took a Japanese class last year with one that was horrible imo- lots of wasted time, going too fast, not well organized. This last term, I started with a different teacher (native speaker and experiences Japanese and English teacher) and the difference was night and day. Also, she tends to, unconsciously, throw in Japanese mannerisms, short phrases, and her English is well accented which helps to shadow the sounds.
2) Immersive experiences are great. I took several years of Spanish in HS, never used it, and forgot most of it. Taking trips to Mexico, and just speaking rudimentary phrases such as basic greetings or giving my room number en español has helped to relearn more than I ever thought possible.
Part of that is there are a lot of European looking native Spanish speakers I think, so often people will start off in that. Contrast that with Japan, where many places will start off in English, and even if they’re totally terrible at it, they’re still better than my Japanese so English ends up winning.
my friend’s kids are in a Spanish immersion school. my friend and his wife don’t speak Spanish. apparently all the kids talk Spanish around the adults in their neighborhood now. i find that amusing.
This is actually big news:
Also big news on that bill
https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1073264722248679424
Congress sure likes to cede its authority a lot.
Congress sure likes to
cede its authorityevade responsibility a lot.Why risk the wrath of the voters if you can pawn off the shitty and unpopular legislation that allows the law makers to favor their donors and fuck over the people they want to see lose to the bureaucracy?
The most important thing we need to change so we can stop the current abuses from our ruling class is to force ALL legislation back to congress and remove this ability completely from the massive bureaucracy that today legislates by fiat (including the presidential pen) based on a power never granted them in the constitution. None of the three or four letter acronym agencies, nor any czar, should be allowed to straddle us with anything that becomes a regulatory mandate (not to be confused with a couple of guys going out on a date).
Congress wants nothing to do with that, because they do fear these careerist D.C. party circle assholes don’t want to be held accountable by people they look down upon.
Yup, the entire regulatory state is built on the theory that Congress can delegate its authority to legislate. Of course, not only is this contrary to the separation of powers built into the Constitution, but one searches Congress’s actual enumerated powers in vain for the authority to delegate.
Face it – the Constitution is a historical curiosity, and is used by the government solely to gull the people that it rules (not governs, not anymore) into believing that they are citizens (not subjects, which we actually are) of a legitimate government (which we do not have, not anymore).
I’m reading the Newsweek article and my eyes are glazing over. WTF does any of that actually mean?
Fuck, is that depressing.
Awesome. Can’t wait for heads to explode when Trump signs it.
He should invite Elon Musk for the signing ceremony.
Wow! That kind of surprises me. Times, they are a changin’.
The local take on the farm fill is that SNAP benefits are restored.
So the benefits weren’t even cut, there was just a requirement that you spend 20 hours a week not sitting on your couch. But that was “insensitive”.
But it could have left thousands of needy Americans hungry!
First f’in line in the article – that’s where I stopped reading.
The GOP should have spun it as “Doing something about childhood obesity”.
807 pages
I can’t even.
I learned Slovak in about a year. The keys for me were having a good teacher, immersion, reading the newspaper, alcohol and learning the roots of words. The roots greatly helped expand my vocabulary. I would take a root, and add various prefixes to it to see how it would change the meaning and make different nouns, verbs and adjectives. With one root you could easily learn dozens of new words. Thanks to my sophomore English teacher for forcing us to do that when I was in high school.
Were you banging the teacher? That’s what motivates me to learn a new language… I like to know when they are calling for God in whatever language they speak.
With one root you could easily learn dozens of new words.
*snicker*
“Oh God” is only two words.
Y’all* just reminded me to go brush up on my lousy French some more. Thanks.
*A word from American I learned from y’all.
When addressing a group the proper term is All Y’All…
Man, these foreign-language teachers can really bust one’s balls, can’t they?
Whatcha talking aboot?
Quit talking Central/Eastern Canuck. Us Westies can’t understand those simpletons. (Explains why they voted for Trudeau . . . )
I prefer the Ya’ll spelling, as it more accurately portrays the contraction that is happening:
You is shortened to ya.
All is shortned to ll.
No one shortens you to y.
No one shortens you to y.
Somebody has obviously never lived in the deep south.
Plenty of somebodies have never lived in the deep south.
I however, am not one of them.
If you want to argue that the proper spelling is y’ll without a vowel at all, I might agree, in some cases.
But the middle vowel comes from you, not from all.
Yo’ll?
we’re still talking the deep south on planet Earth, right?
Definitely y’all
Unless the fine folks in Florence, KY don’t know what they’re talking about.
Of course, that use to say “Florence Mall” and when they repainted they put the ‘ in the wrong place.
That was what initially set me off on this rant (about 20+ years ago).
And yes, I don’t think the fine folks of southern Ohio know what they are talking about.
Just because one wishes something to be true, does not make it so.
Another vote for y’all.
Do not = don’t… you all = y”’ll. Quite simple
OT
CDC’s latest gun violence report on 2017 titled “ZOMG PUBLIC HEALTH EPIDEMIC BAN GUNZZZZ” is all over my news feed.
absent from breathless pants-wetting reporting: per capita
…39,773 people died by guns in 2017, which is an increase of more than 10,000 deaths from the 28,874 in 1999.
…23,854 people died from suicide by guns in 2017, the highest number in 18 years. That’s a difference of more than 7,000 deaths compared with 16,599 suicide deaths by guns in 1999.
1999 population 279M vs 2017 population of 325.7M. firearm homicide rate in 1999 vs 2017: 3.88 vs 4.44
a bump of 14.4% compared to 1999. does anyone wonder why the CDC compares gun violence now to 1999? it’s because 1999 is an inflection point separating us from our national crack withdrawal.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/13/health/gun-deaths-highest-40-years-cdc/index.html
suicide-by-gun per capita went from 5.95 in 1999 to 7.32 in 2017. suicides overall from 1999 to 2017 went from 10.5 to 14. compared to the overall suicide rate’s increase, it appears that fewer choose to eat a bullet as their means of self-demise.
How To Lie With Statistics was supposed to be a cautionary book, but they’re actually using it as an instruction manual.
I’m going to assume, without evidence, that CNN doesn’t question why the CDC is sticking its nose into something that has nothing to do with its mission.
It’s right there in the name. Disease Control. Gun owners are the disease, FedGov is the control.
I started laughing at this Tundra until I realized that the laugh is on those of us that actually don’t feel gun ownership is an evil thing.
“it’s a public health crisis so it’s well within their purview”
^get ready for lots of that
Let’s see…. carry the one. Yup. Thats still about 2/3 of total “gun deaths” comprised of people that want to die anyway.
But suicide is bad, so we need to confiscate your guns. QED.
Well, clearly, the one thing barring people from suicide is convenience. All of those people would’ve given it another day if they hadn’t happened to notice a pistol in the bedside drawer.
Lies, dammed lies, statistics. . .
they would have a stronger point if they used 2011. per capita homicide was lower than 1999 at 3.56 so they could point to a 20% bump in this decade alone. but they like those raw numbers b/c they think their audience is stupid.
they think their audience is stupid
Well, they’re not wrong.
probably true but they’re certainly not helping matters with their simple presentation.
When I spoke French, people there all told me that I had a German accent.
When I spoke German, the people there (actually Austria) told me I had a French accent.
I have an “accent” in every language I speak because of a childhood speech impediment. I feel your pain.
Ith that weally twue?
May the fleas of one-thousand camels come to rest in your nether regions old man! And may none of them come from young-uns.
Baby, please! I am not from Havana.
+15 schnitzengruben
I knew a guy in the AF like that. Really smart guy, to the point he was wasted in the electrical career field. I wonder what he’s up to now.
My dad “cured” my speech impediment by telling me I was going to school with the locals in whatever country I was in so I either learned to speak well enough to be understood and learned enough to understand what I was being thought, or end up sinking. Was a bitch, but it sure as hell is something I now appreciate. There is a reason I chose to do engineering though, and that usually surprises people who tell me I should have coasted on knowing languages.
Austrian German is the best German, because they talk so slow. Und ze verk slow too, according the the Germans.
In Austria, strangers would speak to me in German. In Germany, strangers would speak to me in English.
It was odd.
When I was traveling through Switzerland in 1973, we were looking for an open gas station (turns out it was a holiday) with little luck. Finally we found somebody near a station and they first tried to talk to us in German, then Italian, and finally in French. I had enough high school French to understand that the station was closed. English was never offered.
The Swiss don’t even speak real German.
When I spoke French the people there asked if I’d learned French in the Motor Pool.
The little Korean I have learned I learned from the ROK Marines we trained with in Team Spirit.
When I met my wife, I thought I could impress her with my savvy lingo. Turns out, learning Korean from Korean Marines is about as bad an idea as learning English from the USMC is. Even simple statements like “can I have a beer” were really “Get me a beer bitch”
Our rule is that I am forbidden to use any Korean around her family/friends unless she has pre-approved it and I have practiced it with her several times.
I asked our French cook if I had a Parisian accent, she stared at me for a few seconds and burst out laughing. I was only teasing her but her answer was obviously a serious response.
Motor Pool immersion (same-same as Korean Marine immersion, I’m guessing). In VN bars the girls would teach GIs (I’ve heard this, no real life experience) some slang that had a single meaning, then get us,( oops, I mean GIs) to repeat it and the girls would howl.
A real learning experience
Wildly OT:
Last night I scrolling through the “genre” section of Netflix when my 6 year old starts yelling at me to click on the LEGO section which is actually the LGBTQ section.
…the LGBTQ section.
I’ll bet that’s a fun collection.
oh come on now. Buffalo Bill in Silence of the Lambs was hilarious. so was Sean Young in Ace Ventura.
All of the parts fit together on this channel.
SWORD FIGHT!
After the kid gets done watching those videos, he is going to fill all the holes in his lego set with fudge.
Amusing nickname for Robert Francis “Beto” O’Rourke:
Tex Kennedy.
He drives like a Kennedy for sure is what I heard…
Why Can’t the Left Meme?
https://twitter.com/QueerDSA/status/1072304479284928512
I stumbled upon this very bizarre and weird video/ meme that purports to show that essentially human procreation (or rather heterosexual relations) are a cultural construct created by capitalism in order to provide a reserve army of labor (old Marxist theory adapted to meet modern obsessions).
Let’s pause here and digest that.
OK, now that we’re done with that, I seriously am confused about why the Left can’t meme. Like at all. All of their memes are god awful and objectively not funny.
Ask them if they believe in evolution when they start saying shit like this, then call them science deniers.
In this particular case, it’s just that the retarded can’t meme
All of their memes are god awful and objectively not funny.
The same reason that SoCons cant take a joke. When you see yourself as a cultural crusader, your sense 9f humor withers away and dies.
They all have the same inflection as that 60-something middle school teacher trying to be cool. “Ooh, let me strip out and sanitize all the good parts of this thing in order to make it educational!”
Listen to the “funny” shows on NPR on the weekend. It ain’t just memes that are out of bounds for the progs.
I will flip to NPR on a Saturday and listen to “Wait, wait don’t tell me” or something like that and the audience will be chuckling loudly at random points in the show. After a while you come to the conclusion that they aren’t random but are in response to something that the contestants said that was supposedly funny.
I think the problem they have is that they consciously scan anything they see/hear first for “problematic” things. Then they are allowed to laugh only if nothing bad is found. The things left in that list are so innocuous that a chuckle is the most you can expect to get.
They don’t seem to understand that laughter is a way to cope with truly horrible things. If you laugh at something it doesn’t mean you endorse it. (Think about the old Carlin joke where he says anything can be funny even rape and proves it with “One day the seven dwarves are raping the shit out of Snow White”).
Carlin would be driven out of show business today, despite the fact that his politics were impeccably leftist, because he had no sacred cows.
Carlin is one of those people who even though I disagree with him a lot, I respect him because he was just as willing to call out whoever was being a douche regardless of what side they were on.
And he was pretty fucking funny.
Totally agree.
Chapelle was on the same admirable trajectory, but couldn’t sustain it.
I always wondered if he wasn’t smart enough to see all the strings that went along with that big $$$$$$ contract Comedy Central offered him and decided to walk away and enjoy his already considerable millions.
Sure it would have been a huge payday, but you would have to listen to all the suits who want you to tone shit down because they want to sell advertising, not make funny stuff that might offend a bunch of people.
And the situation hasn’t improved since then either. No way he could have gotten the Clayton Bigsby sketch aired now.
He didn’t like white people laughing.
On The Skit That “Killed” Chappelle’s Show
I know I don’t have the sensibilities of an artiste, but I don’t see how he could write and perform that line and think it wouldn’t become a catchphrase.
if i saw skinny ass Dave Chappelle at a rehearsal in a pixie costume prancing around i’d lose my shit too.
Salman Rushdie would be considered an “Islamaphobe” if he wrote “The Satanic Verses” today.
human procreation. . .a cultural construct
Who are the science deniers, again?
Objective science isn’t real science. Only science that is corrected to suit a subjective paradigm, like social justice, is real science. Therefore, they’re not deniers. In fact, you’re the denier for refusing to accept that real science is not objective.
The DSA itself is a goldmine of 24 karat derp
In other words, Marxism and feminism are solely about power. Power is the only metric by which we measure anything.
How can it be that in the 21st Century people are flirting with socialism again?
The stupid will always be with us.
That, and the idiots are running the educational system.
Which is really the reason why we’re all spitting into the wind and this is largely a lost cause
From the sidebar at AoS:
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FloridaWoman doing usual FloridaWoman stuff.
(Bag of Chihuahuas could be a solid punk band name)
Gina must have just moved to Florida.
It wasn’t clear where the puppies came from, but officials determined they were about four weeks old
*Takes journalo aside and explains birds and bees to them*
This beta/incel bullshit has to stop.
STEVE SMITH LEARN ENGLISH. LEARN WAY OF HIKERS.
STEVE LEARN GREEK TO HIKERS.
Did this gem fail to make the sports section of the AM lynx? And do hockey refs wear a cup? Cause I hope so…
Yes, I believe they do, in addition to thin breezers. But that puck didn’t hit him in the nuts.
Fake news.
We watched that clip and this clip of a guy getting a skate to the face while we were rehydrating at the bar after our weekly game of hoops. We decided that we were definitely smart for playing basketball instead of hockey.
It was Tim Peel? Hope he does – he’s not a bad ref. Now, if it were Kevin Pollock….
https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/some-deadspin-writer-called-me-a-traitorous-queer
Some of you have bemoaned the endless wokeness of SI and ESPN. I suggested read “Barstool Sports” or listen to their many podcasts.
Today, I present to you an article written by a gay conservative who works of Barstool Sports titled: “Some Deadspin Writer Called Me A “Traitorous Queer””
“Traitorous Queer”
Now that’s a good band name.
It’s certainly up there with “Anal Cunt”.
I feel like “Traitorous Queer” is a good name for a punk band, whereas “Anal Cunt” has got to be the name of some industrial band
Funny article, too.
They’re listed as grindcore, but mostly parody
Brian Schatz apparently assumes that most of the population has severe memory loss.
Brian Schatz

@brianschatz
A cool thing about being a Democrat is that we would totally turn on a President who was doing all of this.
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Our glorious leaders who speak like Valley Girls.
Brian Schatz apparently assumes that most of the population has severe memory loss.
Indeed. They had a president like that just two years ago. They most assuredly did not turn. Memory like a goldfish.
Manuel
That moose must have been manufactured in Japan.
No one pats themselves on the back with quite the same élan as John Kasich.