No, I didn’t buy a bunch of cheap beer to chug after I came home from the gym. I don’t think it was particularly wise of me to do that and while I like you guys (and the 5 ladies we’ve been able to confirm here) I’m not doing that for you again. At least not for free.
Nothing gets by this crowd though, and everyone here is intelligent enough to notice a pattern in that first article. On the off chance you missed it I’ll point it out: With the exception of the IPA and Daybreak those affordable but skunky beers are all Pilsners.
This is my review of Sierra Nevada Nooner Pilsner.
The Pilsner is the most common beer in the world. Some estimates I have heard but not verified, is that over 90% of the beer consumed on Earth is a Pilsner. A claim I find believable, but again not verified. It is named for it’s origin in the city of Plzen, Bohemia (Czech Republic), where it is was first brewed by Pilsner Urquell. Credited to Josef Groll, a Bavarian brewer hired by the city’s brewers to teach them to lager. At the time they were having issues with their ales spoiling and in 1838 they chose to flood the streets of Plzen with spoiled beer to dump it.
Nobody knows who it was that smuggled the Bavarian yeast out of Bavaria, but some blame a monk. What made this yeast special? This is one of the first strains identified that fermented at the bottom of the barrel, rather than ale yeast which ferments at the top. Ales brew at higher temperatures and often are hardy enough to handle moderate temperature fluctuations. Lager yeast on the other hand needs a consistent temperature, often somewhat cold. Whoever smuggled out this trade secret, Groll had the yeast and in 1842 he combined it with the city’s remarkably soft well water, and generous portions of Noble Saaz hops. The result is still made to this day. https://www.thespruce.com/history-of-pilsner-353306
Others realized the Bohemians were on to something, so as they say–scaramoosh, scaramoosh when you do the fandango.
What is it that sets beer like this apart from the mass produced libations everyone from the Trumpeñero, to the bearded hipster that doesn’t seem to understand what irony is but claims to own it anyway, all seem consume in ridiculous quantities? I don’t know. But I have a couple theories.
The old adage is that one cannot have it good, cheap, and fast; somewhere within those three attributes, corners will be cut and compromises will be made. The main difference between buying a luxury good from a mass produced good, it what is compromised. Not to step on anybody’s toes here, but take this for example:

Thunder Bolt and lightning
This is the revolver I purchased a few weeks ago. On the outside, it looks excellent. The finish is reasonably well polished, there are no sharp edges, the lockup and action are…okay. There are no machining marks and yes the barrel is aligned properly (I checked before I bought it). Where was the compromise? The design itself for one thing, as revolvers are really meant for a niche market, most of which with more grey hair than I and much more discernable in terms of quality. The $10 rubber grip is another as are the usable sights, which I think can be improved. Both however, can be had in the aftermarket as so that is no big deal. Where the compromise truly is to be seen, is when you pull off the sideplate:

Very, very frightening.
The trigger group is made from extruded parts rather than machined to shape from bar stock. They are heat treated for strength, which is why they look burnt. These parts rub together and are meant to grind smooth against themselves over time. The only parts that are fitted, are on the hammer, just below the sear and the hook of the trigger where they contact each other–right behind that superfluous safety device. Once these are removed, one will find they are sitting in a gum-like mess meant to pass as lube. The inside of the frame is rough and unpolished. I knew when I bought it, that I had it cheap and fast. Together these gritty parts make for a trigger group that is terrible for the overall price of the gun. To Smith and Wesson’s credit, in order to make it good I only needed an Arkansas stone, watchmaker tools, wipes soaked in jeweler’s rouge, 5w30 and a Sunday afternoon with a Radenberger. I suppose a flashlight was also needed because I somehow managed to lose explosion diagram part #71. The result is something with much less compromise.
The other theory? Americans only have a history going back a couple hundred years. The standards and traditions that are lauded in European culture have been built over centuries and thus their standards and expectations for certain things, like food and drink are higher. Also America was built on an idea, therefore anybody no matter where they are from can theoretically be an American so those standards and expectations get lost over time. So how is it that the Germans are able to put a better Pils to market? I’m not privy to that information to know for sure, but I would guess the compromise is price and time to some extent, because their home market is rather discerning. This is not to say an American company cannot build it to the same standard.
Sierra Nevada makes this in what I find is the more enjoyable Czech style. It is light, properly carbonated and has the crisp finish that almost everyone can enjoy. It is perfect to quench your thirst on a hot day. While it is hard to compete when the Germans give you full pint cans for the same price, it stacks up well. I will say that I liked Breakside’s version better, but it is Oroegone based so it may not be available in your area. Sierra Nevada makes theirs in California and North Carolina so its available on both coasts! Sierra Nevada Nooner Pilsner: 3.8/5
Nice 686. That is a badass revolver.
Some day I too might touch a revolver
Time for a vacation to the US then!
I did shoot a pistol at a range in bucharest. Some isralei brand i don’t remember the name of. The range guy gave it to beginers cause the trigger was easier to pul tham some beretta he had. I even hit the target ar 25 meters though it was easier at 10
Probably a Jericho 941, and therefore, basically the same gun I shoot most. Excellent beginner gun.
Lemme know when you want to take that vacation. We’ll shoot up load of shit and drink lots of scotch.
The Jericho’s (baby desert eagles) need more marketing push. Especially the ones that have the safety/decocker. I really push the da/sa guns to beginners
I thought MRI stopped importing them in 2008. *shrug*
There are so many CZ75-ish-patterned decockers around to choose from nowadays.
I installed a Wolff spring along with the trigger job. Tis buttery smooth now.
I bought the wife a 686 3” in 38sp only. Great shooter in single action. I prefer my GP100 in double.
I considered the GP. Its becoming a toss up between the two these days.
My GP was used and 1990 vintage. It had a dynamic “lots of use” trigger job. It is greasy smooth in double and a hair in single action.
Having looked at standard S&W fare, I have to say that the Rugers seem a better deal; hell, the Rugers stand up pretty well against Performance Center models.
For sure. Had I spent more time outdoors, this last purchase would be a Redhawk in .45LC.
I like that you can shoot .45 acp too
Since S&W are kinda-sorta letting me down over the discount program for NRA instructors, and I need a wheel gun (as an instructor) … I’ve let my eyes fall on this.
Even if I am RiFed, I’ll be getting my salary catch-up/bonus and I deserve a bit of retail therapy. It looks like Ruger also run an ‘Instructor Discount’ Program, and maybe it’ll bring the cost down to about $700. Still steep for a gun, and not a 9mm, but hey, you can’t take it with you, and 38sp isn’t that expensive.
Plus – I’m RO’ing tomorrow and one of the regulars is bringing along one of his legendary toys, and a couple of boxes of ammo. Anyone wanna guess what 10mm he’s bringing?
Bren Ten?
Bingo.
I think it’s a compacts, but hey, I can dig out my summer suit and pretend to be Don Johnson anyway.
Ever shoot a Coonan 357 auto? Real well made pistol.
There’s a guy at the club who (by reputation) owns a Coonan, but he’s a miserable bastard who wouldn’t give a door a slam, so I doubt I’d get the chance.
In my case it’s my best friend who goes through guns like he is leasing them.
Firearms AND Alcohol. Most excellent.
Just need the Tobacco and you have the whole trifecta.
/Hands 6 a Cigar
At some point Explosives got added to the mix. So, we’ll need some Tannerite as well.
That’ll be a good party.
I’ll be checking my mail for my invitation.
Well thermite is pretty easy to make and you can order the parts to make it off Amazon, so shouldn’t be to hard get the party going.
Funny, I’ve never seen the pilsner even as common as the Pale Ale is. Also, kudos on the bio.
Pilsner Urquell is now available in cans. No more skunky aftertaste.
Pretty much the only 2 Pilsners I’ll drink, Urquell and Nooner,
Always good stuff MS,
So how is it that the Germans are able to put a better Pils to market?
Not the Reinheitsgebot?
Meh i find german beer overrated. Although due to work i travel mostly to Munich were they like their wheat beer and i don’t like wheat beer
More beer for me!
German beer overrated? Ok, all the German beer for me!
“All”? No. I’m getting some.
Ok, but we have to hit those German beer halls and get served giant mugs of beer by the busty beer wenches.
I booked accommodations for Oktoberfest. I’m going again this year.
Shit… I want to go. I’m probably going for 2 weeks in August, but to Berlin. I’m jealous.
I would like to stop in Berlin at some point. I only have a week in Munich booked, but I intend to spend more time in Europe. I haven’t made up my mind about what else to do while I’m Europe except that I want to spend time in parts of Europe I haven’t been to.
LSD is probably getting tickets for later in the year. Not sure how much point there is in going, because she’s not a drinker (yet) ….
Glibs meet-up at Oktoberfest?
“Glibs meet-up at Oktoberfest?”
I mentioned this to wifey, and she’s scared, as she should be. It feels good to be appreciated.
Not this year, but the girlfriend and I have decided that when one of the saving funds gets high enough, we’ll be going to Germany. It’ll either be Oktoberfest or Essen, with at least a couple of days in Koln.
Köln is lousy with pickpockets and beggars. I heard from an older couple from Köln whom I ran into on my travels that the wine festival organizers finally hired security to keep the pickpockets and beggars from harassing the festival goers.
Cologne Cathedral is amazing.
Essen?! Tell me that’s relatives or something.
Essen is all about the largest board game convention in the world. Koln is because it’s close to Belgium, and I love Kolsch.
Ahhh.
Köln I can understand – there’s lots to do there.
Essen is like the Detroit of Germany.
Köln I can understand – there’s lots to do there.
Essen is like the Detroit of Germany.
I preferred Düsseldorf to Köln, but Köln has better connections via train and flights, and yes, more to do. The beggars and pickpockets wrecked Köln for me.
When I went to Köln for the first time, I was looking for things to do outside of Köln. One travel guide suggested Essen. When I researched Essen, my impression was about the same as yours, like going to Detroit.
Philistine!
Believe it or not, its commonly followed here when smaller brewers make German styles. I imagine if InBev did it the result would taste like shitty German beer.
Long dead Top Men telling you how you can make your product wouldn’t be considered a route to excellence in any other sphere.
A stein of beer in Frankfurt is a fine thing, but German beer is definitely overrated and monotonous. Czech, Polish, Flemish, British, and American beer is all more varied and consequently better.
Oroegone? Wonder where that came from?
Sounds like some slave – or at least somewhat racist – state, Oreogon.
North of the Peoples Republic of Commiefornia
S. Washington.
Baja Washington, please.
Only if we can split it between a Norte, and a Sur.
I think most of the Sur would be happy to be rid of the Norte.
From the orogenous zone?
Subduction FTW!
I’ll make the earth move for you baby.
Now I’m insulted. How dare you appologise to the Scots!
Pilsner Urquell is now available in cans. No more skunky aftertaste.
The Pilsner is the most common beer in the world. Some estimates I have heard but not verified, is that over 90% of the beer consumed on Earth is a Pilsner – depends on how loose you define beer and pilsner I suppose… round these parts a lot of the pilsner beer is sold in 2 litre plastic bottles but to really enjoy it you need to eat roasted salted sunflower seeds and spit the husks om the sidewalk. The saltyness makes the beer go down easier
I worked with a Serb dude for awhile. He brought a few 2 liter bottles of beer to a job a few times. I had no complaints but have no idea what it was. He also brought some fruity moonshine stuff that would work good for cleaning brake parts.
If I had to guess, it was Slivovitz. The east side of Cleveland has a large Czech and a large Serbian community. They… do not get along.
Could be rakija. Pie wrote an article about it.
Honestly i prefer the czech budwiser to pilsner urquell… also krusovice i find better…
Czech Budweiser is good. I’ve had this Krušovice beer. It’s OK. I probably had some other Krušovice beer while I was in Prague, but I can’t remember.
They make some good beer. I really like Czechvar.
I’ve never been able to find it.
There are no Pilsners made in the USA, or lagers. That’s IPA. Even Brazil has real Pilsner, but not here, doesn’t exist.
I had some of this while in Ecuador. You can’t beat the price, $1 for a half liter bottle. It’s OK at best.
Antarctica and Devassa in Brazil are a couple of the more common good pilsners. Not of European quality, but better than Molsen or Moosehead, which I consider real pilsners that are not bad at all. Definitely better than anything called pilsners here.
Sorry about the confustion between Pils and lager, which are … I mean ok, Pils is a special style of lager I guess, but they’re very similar. All of the lagers in Brazil are called pilsners.
Nooner is damn close then
It’s not like I cannot be convinced that a good pils or lager can never be made here, it’s just that I haven’t, yet. The closest I’ve had was at a bar in Manhattan and I can’t remember the name of it. But that one did actually taste more like a lager than an IPA.
We’ll have to setup a crowdfund site to send Hyperion some beer.
You’re perfectly welcome to do that. I’ll let you know how it was.
Wait, you think all American lagers taste like IPA’s? Have you never tried Yuengling? It may not be great beer, but it’s definitely an American lager and it tastes nothing like an IPA.
K.
Victory Prima Pils is also very good. I was able to get a bunch of German dudes drinking it.
I’m drinking a Carneros Pinot Noir right now; I fart in the general direction of you beer drinkers.
Also, I’ve decided to buy this instead of the model 500:
https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-460v-revolver-5
Main reason being that you can fire .45 LC and .454 Casull from it as well.
You’ll end up shooting it a lot more and you’ll have money left to buy more Pinot Noir.
Nice. Thats one way to prepare for STEVE SMITH.
I like the glass with the stache. Needs to be a a stein with a monocle and the lid as a top hat.
arguably, because its the best
*and in the process of being so good, gets unbelievably bastardized. therein lies the problem of its perception. most of it is crap.
I like Spaten and Staropramen and … a handful of similar ones. I’ve never thought Pilsner Urquell tasted anywhere near as good out of the bottle as it does from a tap.
Those are both good, I prefer Staropramen of the two, and Czechvar over both. I don’t like Pilsner Urquell much, too bitter.
I honestly think that’s the bottled-beer effect on it. i drank the stuff in huge quanties in europe, then came back to the US and did a double take when i had some from the bottle. it has a weird, bitter aftertaste that i’d never noticed before.
Were the bottles green? I remember for a time they used green bottles, those let in a lot more light than brown.
On that note: cans are better in every way to bottles except for use as a makeshift weapon.
I typically hate beer in cans. But the Stella Artois sold around here in 11.2oz cans actually tastes like fresh beer on tap. Not sure how they do that, but it’s really good.
Modern cans are better then bottles in every possible way. Less light (skunkiness is from light struck beers), less weight, chill faster, easier to recycle (actually profitable to recycle), less prone to breakage. As long as you aren’t drinking out of the can, you’re always better off.
they always have. most of them do. other ‘green bottled’ pilsners seem to never have the same effect.
i think blaming the UV exposure is often misguided.
In my pic above, the bottles are brown, FWIW.
well i’ll be damned.
A primer on skunked beer.
my point was more that the amount of sunlight time beer-bottles get in transit is pretty low in the first place, which is why many many beers have used green bottles for decades without significant problems. that doesn’t mean it isn’t entirely true about the risk of green bottles… just that the practical impact in most cases is low.
and this point is mainly for distribution to ‘on-premise’, not retail
Ah. I thought you were talking about skunking and there is only one way to skunk beer: exposure to UV light. There are lots of other things that can affect beer taste.
that was exactly my point. just because it tastes funky doesn’t mean its always the ‘a ha, green bottle’-answer. it could just be that’s their export-beer-recipe.
agree on the cans point for many good beers. the lined-cans (if/when they’re available) can be even better.
^ Keystone fan
i was thinking of the way many companies market their product in the UK
(the “4 pack of 440ml cans” is more common than the 6 pack, and most of them advertised ‘lined cans for fresh taste’)
The problem with lined cans is it is unwise to fashion a makeshift pipe out of them.
this is a problem i have experienced in the past
I had a tour of the Staropramen brewery while in Prague. The tour is nothing special, but their taproom is good and the beer is fresh. Czech beer is best when fresh.
Like all beer. When my wife has brought me beer back from Germany a couple of times, it was fantastic fresh, much better than the same beer if you buy it here.
Out of all the beers I’ve had, I’ve noticed it far more with just about any Czech style and certain German styles than other beers.
I have noticed that Carlsberg is far better on tap than in bottles, delicious even.
+1 Niels Bohr
So, they’re talking on the TV now about how Theresa May and her Eurotard minions are going to make viewing ‘extremist’ content on the internet, a crime punishable by up to 15 years in prison. No talk at all about restricting immigration or deporting some of their thousands of known terrorists. Also, no mention of exactly how ‘extremist’ content is defined. Nothing could possibly go wrong.
Part of the problem with laws like that is that their victims will be lonely perverts who are too unfashionable for the Right People on Twitter to champion.
Yes and no,
Given that Enoch Powell, the former Conservative Minister is now considered ‘extremist’, there are gonna be a lot of people eligible for time in the Big House for watching his “Rivers of Blood” speech.
When ‘Extremist’ == ‘Someone who said something that upset someone else’, the streets are gonna be filled with gored oxen.
I don’t even like popcorn much and I have a huge bowl of it right here.
They’ll be eligible for it, sure, but then they’re already eligible to be prosecuted for any number of similarly moronic pre-existing laws. Even 21st century Britain might take a bit of notice if they locked up several thousand people a year for this sort of thing.
Like its predecessors this law will be applied on a haphazard basis, and it will be so badly drafted that the police and the CPS will have an enormous amount of caprice in picking their victims. Even where there’s no jail sentence, the process will be the punishment.
If this sort of thing were taken to its logical conclusion then it wouldn’t happen nearly so often. The problem with stupid government in a way is that it doesn’t get the punishment it deserves.
I’m of the opinion that the only way to deal with this particular runaway train is to just keep piling fuel in the firebox and waiting for the inevitable train wreck, because nobody’s even interested in applying the brakes in the caboose.
And May and other statist shitheads like this, know that, which is why they keep getting away with bullshit like this.
A picture of me in Pilzen, Czech Republic. c.1992
I am about to pee off the tower. I was trying to be discrete.
this is the building
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_St._Bartholomew_(Plze%C5%88)
Hadn’t let your hair grow out yet huh? Or did you stuff it all under that hat?
And pissing off of landmarks. Who says americans are rude overseas. Better than pissing on the tower.
i have never really let my freak flag fly. my hair was always thin and if it got longer than past my ears it would get frizzy and i looked goofy.
So peeing off a tower isn’t freaky.
as for rude-americans…. look, it was raining. and we had been sleeping on trains, and “public bathrooms” were not a big thing in ‘still mostly undeveloped east-ish Europe in 1992. And we’d just done our third loop of the $1 Pilsner Urquelll brewery tour, which meant we had 3l+ of beer in us that needed recycling.
3 loops on the brewery tour? Nice
they gave you a free liter with the tour. it seemed like half the town did the tour rather than buy the beer from the public-house, because it was actually cheaper, and it all it amounted to was a pleasant walk through their “World History of Brewing” museum, then a few zips through their facility. The tour was in czech, if i recall, so we had no clue what they were saying regardless. there was a pamphlet, but it got lost.
Foreign vineyards I’ve pissed in:
Le Montrachet
La Tache
La Landonne
Condrieu
La Chapelle
Furstentum
Clos du Bourg
i bet those pees had fabulous bouquet
Pilsner is my go to beer so I probably skew the results on any most popular consumption studies. It will return to normal once my liver explodes. I have not had the Sierra Nevada Pils, and usually end up grabbing some Mama when I decide it is ok to spend 10 bucks on a six pack. Pilsners are hard to find since they seem to stuff the coolers with IPA’s. In Canada, I found that Pilsner was by far the best beer to drink. They have way too many sweet lagers up there.
I normally buy that in the 24oz can.
The Molsen on tap was pretty good last time I was up there. I just avoid anything here labeled a pils or lager as I already know it’s going to taste exactly like an IPA. For American beers, I go for heffes, stout, or porter, which we actually do well. For pils or lager, I’ll stick to European imports.
Pilsner in Canada doesn’t taste like an IPA imho. I just couldn’t drink Kokonee which is what all my friends drink up there. You need to brush your teeth after drinking that it is so sweet.
I agree with you. It doesn’t in Brazil either. But here, all of them I’ve had are actually lighter colored IPAs.
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Nice way to start the afternoon!
I, too, feel greatly constrained by being able to only post one link without approval.
Not normally a fan, but if you’re taking orders, send me half a dozen.
I’m not feel too well today, I’ll just take her.
My prescreening phone interview with HR is tomorrow.
“And so it begins.”
Bon chance, mon amie. Hope it works out for you. Knock ’em out!
Thanks. Funny thing is that right afterwards, I have a “legitimate” telecon with that same company to plan a collaborative measure.
Then Tuesday I have a scheduled yet casual telecon with one engineer there to give me his unvarnished opinion of working there and living in California.
I will be taking some “in-plant vacation” next week for sure.
(BTW, whenever you say “bon chance, mon amie”, I can’t help but picture David Suchet’s Poirot. Not a bad thing at all.)
I do not ‘ave, ‘ow you say, the leetle gray cells …
Good luck! I hope it goes well!
Best of luck!
Imma see whose leg I have to bump to get a wheat beer in here.
Hump, not bump.
Grrrr.
SOXUAL ASSAULT!
Heh
The heffe from Frankenmuth brewery in MI is the best one I’ve had here. Comparable to Ayinger and other good German wheat beers.
Duly noted!! Thanks.
Like Chimay? Give me a few weeks.
Hoegaarden or GTFO
Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier is also excellent.
My fave when in Germany is Fransiskaner. Yummy.
It’s been years since I’ve had some. I’ll have to get a bottle next time I’m at the store.
Franziskaner is not bad at all.
Chimay doesn’t make wheat beers. This is a wheat beer, and so is this. I thought I had some Belgian wheats on my beeradvocate ratings list, but maybe I didn’t rate the ones I had.
I drink a Belgian abbey ale on Ash Wednesday before going dry until Easter. Needs to be made in a monastery. Yeah, Im weird.
The Trappist monks make some great beers. Have you tried any of Spencer’s? A bunch of Trappist monks in Massachusetts started brewing and are now an Authentic Trappist Product.
I’ve had beer from all the monasteries on the list except Tre Fontane.
Dry grinding. Very junior high. I like it.
Not totally sure, but i think i am quoting Brian from an early Family Guy episode. Except he wanted a dry martini.
Indeed you are. One of my favorite lines from that show.
In my experience, “daytime” beers are stingy with the alcohol content.
What you talkin about, bro? I’m drinking beer in the daytime right now and I’m getting a buzz!
There’s a reason god invented jello shots
So hot girls can get a job walking around a bar with trays?
I grew out of jello anything in my teens.
Plain margaritas are my perfect pool drink.
Mai Tais if I’m somewhere really warm, but I’m not right now.
you lyin
Right now I’m drinking a can of Asahi Breweries Limited Dry. This beer is really ok for the price. I buy a few cans occasionally. Changing that up with Heineken (worlds’s best beer) and glasses of Eagle Rare. Buzzzzzzz…
I had that when I went through a Asian beer phase last week. I kept getting alerts from my company’s office in China, and they kept yammering on about Tsingtao.
I drank a boat load of Tsingtao each of the few times I visited Thailand. It kind of gives me a headache just remembering that.
“Tsingtao”
I don’t like it too much. It tastes a little flat to me for lack of better words. Having a large Korean population around here and a lot of Korean owned liquor stores, we get all of the Asian beers. I’m trying to think of the other one I like, but it’s not registering right now, comes in a gold can.
Sapporo, just remembered.
Sapporo “silver can” was an old and trusted lawn-mowing companion.
Aren’t Sapporo and Asahi brewed in the US?
Tsingtao IN Tsingtao is a totally different thing. It would be a very credible German pilsener, quite delicious.
I only had one six of it that I bought in one of the local Korean liquor stores. It wasn’t interesting enough for me to buy another. But I get what you’re saying.
The Japanese food store in the next town over has Asahi, Sapporo, and I think I saw Kirin Ichiban one time. They also sell “shochu”, which is a bit pricey for a 750mL bottle of 25%ABV, but I like to have some variety now and then.
I’m thinking there is nothing wrong with Brady’s hand.
Yeah, total Belichick mind game.
I don’t think that going to help the Jags much. I’m not a Brady fan at all, but I’m not in denial of reality either. Guy has his off days, otherwise, he’s nearly impossible to stop.
I am predicting we will see Sad Face today. I’m not happy about it, but I suspect it will happen
Well, if it’s for only half the game, it may not matter, unless the Jags can get a 50 pt lead.
You have been proven correct. Although they really need a better running game
So he is not only a cheater he is a faker too. Fakey fake Tom McCheater
Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!
That pass interference call – out of bounds? The NFL has to push the Patriots thru to the Super Bowl.
Speaking of Pilsener, I’m enjoying a growler of The Kickstand Pilsener from this new brewery here in Ithaca.
https://www.liquidstatebeer.com
Go Vikings!
I’ve had a pretty laid back day here, which I really needed. Wife went shopping and to get her nails done. When she gets back, I hope she’s happy and not sassy at all, otherwise I’m a drank more. If not, I’m a drank more. Decisions have to be made.
OT (hahah) I’d just like to say that I’m appreciative of all the work that SP and the web-elves have been putting in on the style changes here on the site.
I run a three-screen desktop setup and one of the screens’ color balance was totally borked, but I couldn’t be bothered to do anything about it until some of those color scheme changes which had so little contrast that I couldn’t read the text, let alone figure out what had been marked unread. So I HAD to go install Nvidia’s Color Calibration control – or go insane – and actually do something constructive.
So, Thanks, SP! You kept my weekend productive!
Gronk looks sloppy.
A long time ago, Pilsner Urquell was my go-to beer. I rarely even drink pilsners at all anymore.
On an unrelated note, I have to admit that flipping the script on “obstructionism” brings a smile to my face, because it drove me absolutely nuts to hear people complain that the President wasn’t a dictator… frequently without even understanding what the fuck they were saying.
“On the taxpayers’ dime. This is political. So wrong, regardless of your politics. I want to formally file a complaint, @OfficeGovEthics. How do I do that?”
Um… I think the point is that this ISN’T on the taxpayers’ dime.
I just found another sixer of this, A nice Sour Ale, 9.7%
https://photos.app.goo.gl/gQyhMlEVNwMAtrTy2
https://twitter.com/CheekiScrump/status/954776284843913217
this guy pretty much nails the media-reaction to Cathy Newman’s getting pwned on tv
I’d be genuinely interested to know how much hate email, etc. actually come in (it’s interesting they called in security not the cops).
I’d also like to see some conservative figures put out details of threats.
“”I’d be genuinely interested to know how much hate email, etc. actually come in “”
they keep citing a “barrage” and “torrent” of abuse, but then the only things they cite as examples of nastiness are ‘twitter posts’.
twitter is by definition a non-stop pipe of shitty commentary. everyday, about everything.
to say, “people said bad things about me and were sexist and vulgar and blah blah”… *on twitter*…. is to say nothing at all. there’s a “torrent of abuse” at the morning weather broadcast. there’s a torrent of abuse of companies annoucding new flavors of bubblegum. there’s torrents of abuse hurled at fictitious characters. Twitter is a torrent of abuse.
Yeah. Police reports or GTFO.
And by police reports, I mean ones that are signed by the complainant under penalty of perjury.
I can easily believe she got an utter shitstorm of ridicule, and possibly “I hope you get raped” twitters, but I doubt very much that 98.7% of Peterson’s “followers” would be saying much worse than that.
He’s really not a good spokesperson for the “Alt-Right” if you listen to him for more than an hour or so, let alone his vocal criticism of extremism in general.
That of course makes him a truly worse human being than actually being alt-right – he’s smart and rips apart the leftist narrative.
I’m drinking some beer. Cheers y’all! https://twitter.com/egould310/status/955186939782508544
Tasty! have fun at the Fight. erm.. Hockey Game
Here we go with the Cheatriots getting the fucking calls.
That pass interference call was bullshit.
And I’m wondering how you evaluate Gronk for a concussion. His baseline intelligence is zero, so how do you see whether it’s diminished?
Pushing a receiver out of bounds while the ball is in the air? That’s a penalty.
He was already out of bounds when the contact occurred.
And WTF was up with the ref laughing about something with the Pats player after the TD?
Also I’m pretty sure that ball was uncatchable. It looked like it was five yards infield from the receiver when he went out.
Push came after they had both crossed the line – that’s a no call.
I haven’t seen any egregious calls. The helmet to helmet hit on Gronk was legit, and the Jags defenders are grabby as hell. They didn’t show the play clock on the delay of game, so I don’t know about that one.
I rewound and looked, Jags just flat out screwed up.
The helmet to helmet was tactically stupid.
The NFL cannot NOT have a premier franchise fail to make the SB. Any more of this and they might as well be an offshoot of WWE.
This.
Every close call goes one way.
Gee, where have I seen that?
The NBA? The NFL every previous season?
This is why I’m pretty much off pro football. Survivor has more integrity as a contest than football at this point.
I follow college sports much more closely than the pros. I’ve watched all of 3 NBA games since the Brawl in Detroit (I was a Pacers fan during the Reggie Miller/Ric Smits days), and one of those was a free suite ticket. I’ll watch the NFL if I don’t have anything better to do, but it’s not must see TV like it was 5 or 10 years ago.
College sports, even though they have their own issues (*glares as UNC, Louisville, Arizona, UCLA, etc.*), don’t feel scripted or polished. There’s something raw and real about it that’s lost in the pros.
I was talking to a friend of mine about college football the other day and that was the conclusion we came to.
At the high school level, playbooks are simple and it’s mostly about athletic ability. The margin of error is wide, so it looks like amateurish play with occasional bursts of great individual plays because you’re seeing real standout players alongside people who aren’t going to play past high school.
At the other end, NFL football is the cream of the crop athletically, with complex playbooks, which paradoxically makes it look much simpler. The margin of error is razor thin because everyone is operating at such a high level. It’s the old saw about the Cleveland Browns practice squad being better than the best college team.
College is this sweet spot where you’re not looking at the ubermenschen of the football world, but you’re starting to see more intricate plays, so they move a little slower and they’re a little easier to follow. It’s all about the coaches, and in many ways it looks like a more thoughtful, strategic game.
Well I said I was going out for the games but yet her I sit at home. I’m at least going to drink. Apple Pie Moonshine, apple cider, and a cinnamon stick to start. If I run out of that then maybe some of that fake pilsner Miller Lite. I took tomorrow off so no limits:)
OT: California’s trying to make sure any corporations dumb enough to still be there abandons ship
tl;dr: In response to the federal corporate tax cut, California’s proposing to double their state corporate tax.
A couple dozen jabbering monkeys flinging shit at each other would be a step up from the current legislature in Sacramento.
I’d prefer monkeys flinging shit at the current legislators.
How many times are they doubling it? By this point it should be at a few thousand percent.
The current corporate income tax rate in CA is 8.84%. They’re not the highest, surprisingly enough. That’s Iowa, at 12%, followed by PA at 10%. But if they double it, they’ll be the highest by far at 17.68%.
Iowa allows deduction of Federal tax paid, so our effective corporate rate is lower.
Apparently “middle class tax justice” means funding the following:
Proponents estimate it would raise between $15 billion and $17 billion a year, which would be directed toward funding for education, college affordability initiatives, child care and preschool slots, taxpayer rebates and an expansion of California’s Earned Income Tax Credit.
That’s a funny way of saying it’s all going straight into CalPERS.
^This – assuming they don’t just use it to line the pockets of current pubsec workers.
Everything else is a lie
Taxpayer rebates?
Um… Isn’t that what we just got?
But they can’t let Drumpf take credit for that extra money appearing on everyone’s paycheck. They have to make it look like it’s due to the wise beneficence of California’s Public Servants™.
It’s probably also to offset the SALT deducation cap of $10k, which is going to affect middle and upper income Californians pretty hard.
The solution is to cut taxes.
It’s one credible solution to just about all our ailments.
I don’t think California legislators even comprehend the meaning of such a thing.
Fuck you, cut spending.
No, see, they’re going to take money from the fat cat corporations and put it into the hands of the noble proletariat. Never you mind where a corporation gets its revenue from.
Put it in the hands of the noble selfless public servants and quangos for the supposed benefit of the proletariat, more like.
Gotta root for Jacksonville, amirite?
This is all about the Republican tax reform plan that Trump signed–making California’s income tax non-deductible (past $10,000).
They either have to raise taxes or cut spending (on the one hand) or face the wrath of California’s most influential constituents (in Hollywood, Silicon Valley, the biotech industry in San Diego, et. al.).
This is exactly what I was hoping to see. If that witch Susan Collins hadn’t insisted on that $10,000 exclusion, this would be happening even bigger and better.
Baseline–California can’t keep its top income tax at 13.3%, and even the idiots in Sacramento know it.
Jacksonville and Philly.
50% correct
So you want the Patriots in the Super Bowl?
Ha-ha. No.
I can think of one scenario I’d like to see.
Brady wins. He thanks Trump on live TV and calls him out onto the field.
Damn you, don’t make me root for the Patriots.
We won! Pats! Pats!
Now I’m really hoping the Vikes make it thru and beat the Pats in the SB – exorcising the Viking demons at the expense of the NFL’s most-annoying-franchise-since-Americas-Team.
Plus it would put a dent in all the MSP businesses hoping to rake in the money from the SB suckers.
I thought the Jacksonville story was a better one, but I’d settle for seeing the Vikings beat the Patriots to win a Superbowl. I’ll tell you this, though. A Pats – Eagles Superbowl is a stone-cold lock that I’ll be watching the Puppy Bowl or pretty much anything else.
Not entirely OT:
What’s the easiest type of beer for a beginner to brew? I made some crude “get-you-shitfaced” wine before, so I’m not entirely unfamiliar with the basic concepts of alcohol production, but I’m wondering if there’s any type of beer that is more forgiving and harder to fuck up.
Near beer? :-p
Ales are much easier than many others.
As a home brewer, years ago, I found two issues to be critical. If you can’t ensure really consistent environmental temperatures (as implied in the OP) – you’ll find some yeasts to be a real challenge; particularly bottom-ferments. Secondly, and I think the bigger source of disappointment – is water chemistry. If you have a local brewing supplies place, use them, even if they cost a bit more than Amazon. They’ll know what works for the area, and you never know when you’re gonna need some advice at short notice.
Paying an extra couple of bucks over the top for a hygrometer or a bottle capper can be worthwhile.
If you have a local brewing supplies place, use them, even if they cost a bit more than Amazon.
This. I did my first two batches from online stores, and the quality has been inconsistent. I’m working on my third batch and feel infinitely more confident after talking with the manager at my local brewshop. He walked me through my prior batches and explained where I may be making mistakes, and he pointed out some useful equipment to make things easier.
But were your first two inconsistencies related to your online purchases, or your beginners mistakes? Two brews in seems a little early to be condemning anything. Especially if you weren’t properly sanitizing. (Not sure if this was the case. The last post I saw by you -if I understood correctly- on this was that you used a cleaner, but not a sanitizer)
If you have a local brew store, by all means use them. It’s always nice to be able to talk to someone face-to-face when starting out. But there are many very trustworthy online stores out there as well.
specially if you weren’t properly sanitizing
Proper sanitizing is key. One thing I learned the hard way when I started home brewing is your first batch or maybe two you can get away with a little sloppiness. Bacteria haven’t had a chance to establish themselves. After that? The bacteria is there unless you sanitize, sanitize, sanitize.
The easiest thing to do is to get a kit from a homebrew shop, all extract, for something like a pale ale or an American brown ale. Extract means you don’t have to worry about a mash, which means you won’t need as much equipment to get started. The two styles I mentioned are ales, which usually ferment faster and warmer so they’re easier to handle in that regard, and because they’re relatively hoppy you can hide some of the funkiness you sometimes get from old extract or if you happen to introduce some off-flavors. Oh, and with extract you won’t have to worry about water chemistry, although you’ll still want to either use spring water, distilled water, or tap water that’s had the chlorine/chloramine removed.
The biggest thing you’ll need to learn is a good sanitation routine–I mean like surgically sterile–and then it’s mostly getting the process down. There are a lot of moving parts, and after sanitation and cleaning the biggest keys to success are precision, planning, and repeatable procedures. It’s like baking in that very minor changes in inputs can result in dramatic differences in the output. You know you’ve arrived when you can make the same beer taste exactly the same twice in a row.
Stouts are usually recommended for beginners, because the strong flavors will cover up flaws in your brewing process much better than lighter tasting beers.
Good advice. Also, stouts can be a good introduction to steeping grains and messing around with adjuncts and stuff like that.
Late to the party, but it would also depend on what your preferences are. Porters, Stouts, IPAs, and fruit beers can all be made easily, and have ways to hide common brewing flaws. It’s also simpler to homebrew extract beers instead of all grain, but if you go that route, make sure the extract is fresh (dry keeps longer the liquid, but is much more sensitive to moisture).
I make mead, wine, cider, and beer (mostly sour ales). There are a limited number of ways to screw things up:
1) Spoilage organisms — most beginners get bad product because they blow sanitation
2) Chemical contamination — using the wrong chemicals to sanitize (trying to save money); using plastic fermentation vessels without having any idea that was in them before you got them (trying to save money); using bad water (tap water is bad for most everything you will try to brew).
3) Oxidation.
4) Using the wrong yeast or fermenting outside the yeast’s happy zone (temperature wise).
Make friends with the dude or dudette that runs your local brew shop. Talk a lot before you make anything. Buy new equipment. Buy the proper cleansers/sanitizers. Buy quality kits or ingredients. Follow the directions.
If you are constrained for space and plan ferment and age in your kitchen, start with beer styles that can be fermented at temps in the 70s. It makes a big difference.
I work exclusively in my basement where the temperature is 62 to 68 year round. I make products that use yeast that are happy at that temperature range (in other words, I don’t do lagers or saisons).
Good luck to you.
Jag wire
Jag wire
Jag wire
Very impressive pilferage of the football.
Ok, I’ve pretty much sworn off foozball and this game between the Pats and Jags, just further justifies my reasons. That ‘fumble’ was NOT a fumble, the player clearly still had control of the ball when his knee hit the ground. I’m way past sick of football as politics.
Is ‘B’ related to ‘A’ here?
The flea flickers and trick plays are really getting them.
Even that blown one with the fumble was screwing with Jacksonville’s heads.
They’re half a step behind on everything right now.
Half way done. If the second game goes quick maybe I can get home early enough to have a few drinks.
Patriots in the Superbowl, I am shocked, shocked I tell you!
The Brady mammal is a true domineering creature!!!!
All their SB wins are fucking tainted. Everyone knows this.
Two words for the friggin Patriots:
Eli Manning
Taking advantage of the ideal gas law is a sign of cunning superiority!!!
You sound like a loser. Are you wearing a vagina hat too?
You mean the little shit who pulled a John Rocker on San Diego?
http://yourteamcheats.com
I didn’t watch enough of the game to really know, but I’ve seen enough games where the Patriots just happen to benefit from convenient refereeing that I fully believe the NFL is basically rigged. I’m not saying it’s like the WWE, although I think it’s damn close, but I am saying that the NFL is a business, and it’s a business that makes money by big ratings. I don’t think it’s beyond belief that refs might be subtly encouraged to tweak their officiating in order to, oh, let’s say keep the game interesting. Not cheat, heavens no, but, maybe if the momentum is going a certain way and it looks like it’s heading in a direction contrary to a good matchup later in the playoffs, maybe refs are advised to perhaps take that into consideration when they decide whether to throw a flag.
I know this, though. I can’t think of anything more dull than watching the Patriots in the Superbowl.
Don’t forget Kraft put Goddell as commish
Oh shit, that’s right, I’d forgotten about that.
I was reading some articles earlier this week saying that the NFL’s last gasp to try and regain a sliver of their lost ratings and revenue was to have Brady in the Super Bowl. It’s all kayfabe; not that I’ve ever really given a bugaboo about the NFL in the first place. I must admit, there’s a little schadenfreude watching the league implode after so many years of smug douchebags shit talking about soccer and jerking off about how great the NFL is.
Copy-and-paste time:
Internal affairs was in on it the whole time.
It’s none of my business who has a fish.
Your mom.
Can you really ever own a fish, though?
*shakes tabasco bottle*
Yes. Yes you can.
13. The German smokes Prince.
Fucking Nazis killed him to stop his music. I knew it.
The German owns the fish
What. a. loser.
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/954857039855017984
Michelle Obama must be delighted.
Selection “B1” is grass clippings from the White House lawn.
The federal government stocks vending machines?
That’s weird. There’s a guy in a Frito Lay uniform who does it here.
Why does the WH even provide space for vending machines for the press corps? Bring your own snacks bitches.
Once again, the press puts out something like this as some sort of outrage and leaves at least me wondering why it’s there in the first place. It’s the opposite of the Washington Monument strategy.
Seriously. “Look at this perk that we didn’t deserve!!!”.
I want a full audit of the prices charged on that machine during the Obama administration.
If it’s lower than the full cost of operating it plus the use of space & etc, the feds are subsidizing these supposedly non-government people. If it’s more (and frankly in any case), the feds are competing with private enterprise. The whole White House press corps thing is sick. Office space provided to those people? Fuck that. You show up for the press conference or the daily briefing and when it’s over, hit the road and go back to your own company’s provided space. Off the premises.
It also sounds like a massive opportunity for government-media cronyism and favoritism.
That is just the tip of a very large shitberg.
Albino mammal problems
Michelle O for Pres and Oprah for VP in 2020.
Oprah can’t be President because she’s a woman.
BURN
So, the so called “Patriots” are the evil empire, and the Vikings are freedom fighters, amirite?
Patriots are ISIS and the Vikings are the Kurds.
That makes the Eagles Erdogan.
I guess the Jags are the Iraqi army then?
The Patriots are AIDS and the Vikings are Ebola.
And the Packers are a mild cold; easy to get past.
If your gameplan involves deliberately injuring your opponents, then yeah.
And they finally fired Capers, about six years too late.
Yeah. The Vikes deliberately took out Rodgers. Keep telling yourself that.
Minnesota with the curling in the endzone!!!!!!!! Your Future Reptilian Overlords are pleased!!!!!
the Vikings are freedom fighters.
It’s the Patriots who are evil overlords.
I’m just sayin’.
“It’s the Patriots who are evil overlords”
You use that word as if you understand it’s implications!
The Erdogans are screwing themselves!
That’s a cheap penalty.
They should get a chance to rekick 15 yards back.
Has anyone noticed that STEVE SMITH has a relative featured in a movie advertised during the game, also starring The Rock? And it’s called Rampage?
By Rampage mean Rape, amirite?
STEVE SMITH ALWAYS READY TO PERFORM. EVEN ON BIG SCREEN
STEVE SMITH MAKE YOU #METOO
Thumbs up
Let’s turn it over on the road
You can’t make this stuff up:
“Former FBI Director James B. Comey ’82 to co-teach course on ethical leadership”
http://www.wm.edu/news/stories/2018/former-fbi-director-james-b.-comey-82-to-co-teach-course-on-ethical-leadership.php
“He understands to the core of his being that our leaders must have an abiding commitment to ethical behavior and sacrificial service if we are to have good government.”
-Dammit, I snort-laughed my beer onto my keyboard on that you. William & Mary owes me a new laptop!
Wasn’t William and Mary established with seized pirate treasure?
I keep hearing that Donald Trump is a boorish man. I finally figured out what that means. The right thinking people believe that you are supposed to couch your words, never call something what it is. It is rude to call Jim Acosta a liar to his face in public. Apparently it isnt rude for Jim Acosta to tell bald faced lies and you damned sure aren’t supposed to call him out on it. That is just boorish.
How in the fuck can anyone say Jim Comey is qualified to teach ethics or to say ‘He understands to the core of his being that our leaders must have an abiding commitment to ethical behavior’. That is beyond laughable, yet I am sure it would be rude for me to call it what it is.
I’d ask the reporters the question in the press conference: why is it polite for you guys to lie, and horribly impolite for us to call you on it? And just keep asking the question over and over if they don’t answer.
Hell, I’d troll them by saying we need to have a national conversation about it.
Wouldn’t you take a course on bank robbing from Dillinger?
A boorish man = he’s playing us like a fiddle and making us look like the fools we are.
repeat from part 1: beer doesnt need to be dewinified, the premise is false.
I disagree with the first stat because the america-style rice beers arent pilsners.
Nice little primer
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/06/lets-talk-beer-styles-pilsner.html
OT: I always see this rhyme in English poetry that doesn’t quite seem like a rhyme to me. Here’s an example:
And thence from Athens turn away our eyes
To see new friends and stranger companies
When read aloud in modern English, that’s really not an exact rhyme. Were words pronounced differently back then, or is this just some sort of imperfect/approximate rhyme?
I was taught that these reflect the pronunciation at the time.
Hmm, that’s what I thought, since every other rhyme in that verse is an exact one (I/lie, sweet/meet, us/Demetrius, sight/midnight).
Was “eyes” pronounced “eez”, or “companies” as “companeyes”?
Not a clue and I’m not sure I believe it
Andrew Lloyd Webber on My Fair Lady. His one big problem is a song that rhymes “rather be” with “bother me”.
That rhyme is problematic.
As his former wife called him A slug in corduroy.
It’s called an imperfect rhyme. Or a half rhyme
The great vowel shift.. Don’t know when that poem was written, but that may help.
1590s
Also, just to be a pedantic prick, I believe that poem is written in modern English.
Yes, a lot of these poems have words that would have rhymed the way they were spoken when written, but also it could be an imperfect rhyme used to make some sort of point.
Nice write up.
From the Eagles board:
“Posted 2 minutes ago
Fly overs cancelled for what shutdown?”
lol
Screw the military worship before games.
Could’ve easily been 21-7 going into halftime. 14-10 or 14-14? I’d take it after giving up a pick 6.
Ugh.
Not going to win turning the ball over
So, what is the worst avatar you could have? hmmm…
Umm…
Turnovers are the Nick Sarwarks of football.
Announcers aren’t even going to mention the holding:? I hope those non-calls go both ways
I’m already fucked on the bet. But I take heart that I can’t have a worse avatar.
WOOOOO!!!
It’s a beatdown!
Sorry Minny boys!
Before the thread goes dormant, I think there are a few reasons why American brewers haven’t generally made German pilseners.
For one thing, in the US, particularly in regions where you had a lot of German immigration, corn or rice was a major crop. So even though you had access to wheat, you had access to cheaper, more plentiful corn or rice. For another thing, initially the target market for lagers in general were immigrant communities where lagers were the dominant beverage, and these communities weren’t typically well-off. These were working stiffs at the bottom of the ladder looking to tie one on for cheap, and adjunct lagers fit the bill while still being at least kind of close to what they had at home. Once the big breweries got established and lagers beat ales out in popularity with Americans, the only people making them here were the guys doing adjunct lagers, so that’s what Americans got used to. Hell, I daresay for most Americans, “beer” is synonymous with “Miller Lite” to this day.
I heard one time that the whole adjunct thing started in WWII when it became harder to get the traditional grains because of rationing and that after the war, the public’s tastes had adjusted to that and they never went back to “proper” beers. Not sure if this is true or how much of a factor that was.
That would make a lot of sense. There was a big push to corn for domestic consumption because apparently it doesn’t store or travel well, where wheat does.
i don’t want to get involved in any pedantic bitch fest about the quality of american beer,
but if we’re talking history…. the fact is that beer in America was highly regionalized until relatively late – like the 1970s. you didn’t get national mass-produced brands like Bud and Miller and Coors becoming completely dominant until the 1980s and 1990s. for the majority of the 20th century, you had 5-6 brands in every region that may not have even been present in others. beer, like dairy and bakery, has always been a very regional market and very specific to the local demand.
you’re still correct that “beer” means, ‘low-quality, mass produced, ‘lite’ pilsner style lager’
what it means for people in other countries is often, ‘low quality, mass-produced’ something else. i don’t think carlsberg or heineken deserve any special prizes for quality control in west/east europre. or SAB in places like africa, or Ambev in Brazil, or FEMSA in mexico, etc etc etc.